Ideal Community Business

Tom Guthrie

Tom Guthrie

Communities can be great businesses. The best communities have clearly defined customers, network effects, and strong brands, built on a base of highly-engaged members, making them more valuable as they grow. Communities are strengthened when members themselves do much of the work which creates the opportunity for predictable, high margin, and defensible businesses to emerge. However, achieving this state is not certain or easy. 

Community leaders are faced with both this big opportunity and an uncertain path to get there. The “Ideal Community Business” framework proposes four goals that, together, indicate that a community is large, valuable, diversified, high margin, predictable, and defensible. In short, a great business. Our hope is that this framework will give community leaders some goals to strive for, whether they’re optimizing for community quality, cash flow, or their exit value through an acquisition.

Being the largest and most valuable community in its niche

No community lasts forever, but large and valuable ones stand a much better chance at persisting due to network effects and strong brands. If given the choice, would an accountant join an established group with all of their peers that has more extensive offerings, or a small upstart? A small percentage of people may choose the latter, but most will select the former, creating a positive flywheel. 

The advantages of a large and valuable community come with corresponding risks. By focusing on breadth, a focused, nimble competitor could start with an underserved segment of the market and expand to compete head on with the incumbent community if community leadership fails to adapt and respond to the needs of the members.

Earning more than 50% of revenue through recurring sources

Recurring revenue is beneficial to communities in many ways. First, a subscription membership creates an ongoing relationship with the member, where there is an expectation of continual value exchange. Second, a canceled subscription is a clear message from a member that they are no longer receiving enough value from the community. Finally, recurring revenue makes a community business more predictable, which allows for investments in product and growth with higher confidence. 

Recurring revenue is not right for every product, and communities should not pass up opportunities to create sustainable revenue streams where a subscription is not the right economic model. However, those opportunities should have to meet a higher bar to ensure they are good for members and good for the community in the long term.

Achieving more than 50% EBITDA margins

Building moats is one step to building a valuable business, but the business must also capture a portion of the value it creates in order to survive and return value to its owners. Due to their scalability, low fixed costs, and low variable costs, EBITDA margins in excess of 50% are within reach for great community businesses. 

High margins tend to get competed away in the absence of a sustainable competitive advantage. Communities’ network effects and brand power can help a community retain its advantage even in a competitive market. For a community to survive, its leaders have to be able to continue to dedicate their time and energy to it - no small task, given the 24/7 nature of operating many communities. We’ve seen many community leaders burn out or have to abandon their communities because it’s no longer financially sustainable for them to run it. High levels of profitability help to ensure that this doesn’t become a problem for the community.

Having diversified revenue streams (defined as at least three revenue streams that make up more than 20% of total revenue)

No community can be truly diversified, since it exists for a specific customer segment, but capturing value through multiple revenue streams make a community’s business more robust. For example, a recession may harm a community’s recruiting revenue line, as companies slow hiring, but out-of-work members may take the opportunity to upskill or network to enhance their abilities to gain a new job, or they may have more time to engage with community content and strengthen relationships with other members. 

Having three substantial (defined as 20% or more of total revenue) revenue streams helps to defray some of these risks. With that said, diversification for its own sake isn’t good: it’s far better to create one amazing product than three mediocre ones. We’ve also seen many communities expand into new products quickly before stalling, due to moderate adoption and the high cost of continuing to service these products. The decision on when to diversify and in what direction is a difficult one, deserving lots of thought and preparation. 

How Do Community Businesses Become Ideal Community Businesses?

The ways that communities create value fall into four major categories, which we will refer to using the acronym RICI. 

Categories of Value

Relationships

Does the community help members form new relationships or strengthen their existing relationships through their interactions with the community?

Example: by helping members connect 1on1, the community helped Marc and Shireen kindle a professional relationship and friendship that meant a lot to both of them. 

Identity

Does the community deepen members’ attachment to their core identities in a healthy way or allow them to discover their identities in new ways?

Example: Wearing the community’s branded hat makes Sarah proud to be working in such an interesting industry, gives her confidence, and sparks connections with people that work in tech.

Compensation

Does the community help members earn more for their work? 

Example: The community helped Jerome train in the core skills of a sales leader, which helped him get hired in a new job that pays him 50% more than his prior job. 

Information

Does the community provide new, useful information to its members through their affiliation with the community?

Example: The community’s newsletter clued Edgar in on a new trend in his industry that led him to rebrand his product, resulting in 17% higher sales in Q4 than he had initially forecast.

These categories correspond to the various revenue streams that a community can build as outlined below:

The “Ideal Community Business” framework outlines how communities can scale into high-margin, defensible businesses. Success hinges on four goals: being the largest and most valuable in their niche, generating over 50% of revenue through recurring sources, achieving 50%+ EBITDA margins, and maintaining diversified revenue streams. Value is created across four core pillars—Relationships, Identity, Compensation, and Information (RICI)—which align with common community revenue models like memberships, events, training, and sponsorships. Community leaders can use this framework to build more sustainable, predictable, and valuable businesses.

Tom Guthrie

Co-Founder & CEO

Ideal Community Business

The “Ideal Community Business” framework outlines how communities can scale into high-margin, defensible businesses.

June 13, 2025

Block Quote

I spent the day yesterday at Club Microsoft (aka Microsoft’s yearly developer conference, Build): a packed purple-lit rave, filled with event staff waving glow sticks like air traffic controllers, playing music so loud I could feel my chest cavity vibrating to a four-on-the-floor remix of Neil Diamond’s “Harvest Moon.”

Halfway through the set, CEO Satya Nadella stepped onto the keynote stage and shipped a live commit with GitHub Copilot Agent. Later, Kevin Scott, Microsoft CTO, laid out a manifesto for the “agentic web”: an open internet with agents talking to agents the way browsers talk to servers.

Here’s the thing about Club Microsoft: It’s the busiest club in AI, millions of users deep, but nobody in the hype cycle brags about going. It’s also quietly the center of the whole ecosystem: The company owns a sizable chunk of OpenAI and has its plumbing wired into hundreds of millions of consumer desktops and enterprise customers.

For me, it’s a can’t-miss invite. Here’s what one of tech’s all-time biggest producer of mainstream hits had to say about AI:

Agents are here, but in order to be useful they need access—access to your computer, to other apps, to other agents, and to the internet.

You know when someone important is standing next to you, and you feel like you should make conversation?

But it feels like there’s a force field between the two of you, so you say to yourself, “No, I shouldn’t bother them,” but then you think, “I’m about to interview him on my podcast—this is my goddamn job,” but then your brain feels like a vast empty landscape ringed with a tall electrified fence reading “NO INTERESTING THOUGHTS ALLOWED” and you feel like you couldn’t even remember your name if you wanted to?

Anyway, I was standing in the personal space of Microsoft CTO Kevin Scott, waiting the interminable minutes until we could start recording, when my producer Vivian noticed a white bag on the table in the middle of the table where we’re about to shoot.“Can we move this bag? Whose bag is this?” I asked with an air of authority, grateful to have something to do.

I assume it’s very-nice-and-impeccably-dressed-Bonnie-from-PR’s bag. Wrong. “That’s Kevin’s,” she says. “He makes bags. He made this one.”It’s Kevin’s bag. But it’s also Kevin’s bag.“Have you ever thought about starting a D2C brand and selling these?” I say, glad to finally have something relevant to say.“I do,” said Kevin Scott, Microsoft CTO. “I’m on the Shopify board, so I figure I should use the product.”

This, I think, is the perfect encapsulation of Kevin Scott, Microsoft CTO. Like some sort of homespun Adam Savage meets Barbarians at the Gate. He’s just a regular guy who makes bags and ceramics in his spare time, recognizes by sight the make and model of the boom mics your crew is using, and waxes poetic about the time he used to be into portrait photography. He’s also quietly architecting the biggest AI infrastructure and ecosystem in the world.

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Ideal Community Business

The “Ideal Community Business” framework outlines how communities can scale into high-margin, defensible businesses. Success hinges on four goals: being the largest and most valuable in their niche, generating over 50% of revenue through recurring sources, achieving 50%+ EBITDA margins, and maintaining diversified revenue streams. Value is created across four core pillars—Relationships, Identity, Compensation, and Information (RICI)—which align with common community revenue models like memberships, events, training, and sponsorships. Community leaders can use this framework to build more sustainable, predictable, and valuable businesses.

Creating Great Content in the Age of AI

As AI floods the web with generic content, brands must stand out by focusing on two extremes: ultra-human (live events, video, podcasts) and ultra-personalized AI content powered by proprietary data. Mediocre, middle-of-the-road content is being ignored. Winning strategies combine high-volume, high-quality output with emotional resonance and uniqueness. IRL experiences are especially valuable for generating scalable, defensible content. To stay ahead, know your audience deeply and double down on identity-driven, repurposable content.

The “Ideal Community Business” framework outlines how communities can scale into high-margin, defensible businesses. Success hinges on four goals: being the largest and most valuable in their niche, generating over 50% of revenue through recurring sources, achieving 50%+ EBITDA margins, and maintaining diversified revenue streams. Value is created across four core pillars—Relationships, Identity, Compensation, and Information (RICI)—which align with common community revenue models like memberships, events, training, and sponsorships. Community leaders can use this framework to build more sustainable, predictable, and valuable businesses.

Tom Guthrie

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Co-Founder & CEO

Ideal Community Business

The “Ideal Community Business” framework outlines how communities can scale into high-margin, defensible businesses.

June 13, 2025

Communities can be great businesses. The best communities have clearly defined customers, network effects, and strong brands, built on a base of highly-engaged members, making them more valuable as they grow. Communities are strengthened when members themselves do much of the work which creates the opportunity for predictable, high margin, and defensible businesses to emerge. However, achieving this state is not certain or easy. 

Community leaders are faced with both this big opportunity and an uncertain path to get there. The “Ideal Community Business” framework proposes four goals that, together, indicate that a community is large, valuable, diversified, high margin, predictable, and defensible. In short, a great business. Our hope is that this framework will give community leaders some goals to strive for, whether they’re optimizing for community quality, cash flow, or their exit value through an acquisition.

Being the largest and most valuable community in its niche

No community lasts forever, but large and valuable ones stand a much better chance at persisting due to network effects and strong brands. If given the choice, would an accountant join an established group with all of their peers that has more extensive offerings, or a small upstart? A small percentage of people may choose the latter, but most will select the former, creating a positive flywheel. 

The advantages of a large and valuable community come with corresponding risks. By focusing on breadth, a focused, nimble competitor could start with an underserved segment of the market and expand to compete head on with the incumbent community if community leadership fails to adapt and respond to the needs of the members.

Earning more than 50% of revenue through recurring sources

Recurring revenue is beneficial to communities in many ways. First, a subscription membership creates an ongoing relationship with the member, where there is an expectation of continual value exchange. Second, a canceled subscription is a clear message from a member that they are no longer receiving enough value from the community. Finally, recurring revenue makes a community business more predictable, which allows for investments in product and growth with higher confidence. 

Recurring revenue is not right for every product, and communities should not pass up opportunities to create sustainable revenue streams where a subscription is not the right economic model. However, those opportunities should have to meet a higher bar to ensure they are good for members and good for the community in the long term.

Achieving more than 50% EBITDA margins

Building moats is one step to building a valuable business, but the business must also capture a portion of the value it creates in order to survive and return value to its owners. Due to their scalability, low fixed costs, and low variable costs, EBITDA margins in excess of 50% are within reach for great community businesses. 

High margins tend to get competed away in the absence of a sustainable competitive advantage. Communities’ network effects and brand power can help a community retain its advantage even in a competitive market. For a community to survive, its leaders have to be able to continue to dedicate their time and energy to it - no small task, given the 24/7 nature of operating many communities. We’ve seen many community leaders burn out or have to abandon their communities because it’s no longer financially sustainable for them to run it. High levels of profitability help to ensure that this doesn’t become a problem for the community.

Having diversified revenue streams (defined as at least three revenue streams that make up more than 20% of total revenue)

No community can be truly diversified, since it exists for a specific customer segment, but capturing value through multiple revenue streams make a community’s business more robust. For example, a recession may harm a community’s recruiting revenue line, as companies slow hiring, but out-of-work members may take the opportunity to upskill or network to enhance their abilities to gain a new job, or they may have more time to engage with community content and strengthen relationships with other members. 

Having three substantial (defined as 20% or more of total revenue) revenue streams helps to defray some of these risks. With that said, diversification for its own sake isn’t good: it’s far better to create one amazing product than three mediocre ones. We’ve also seen many communities expand into new products quickly before stalling, due to moderate adoption and the high cost of continuing to service these products. The decision on when to diversify and in what direction is a difficult one, deserving lots of thought and preparation. 

How Do Community Businesses Become Ideal Community Businesses?

The ways that communities create value fall into four major categories, which we will refer to using the acronym RICI. 

Categories of Value

Relationships

Does the community help members form new relationships or strengthen their existing relationships through their interactions with the community?

Example: by helping members connect 1on1, the community helped Marc and Shireen kindle a professional relationship and friendship that meant a lot to both of them. 

Identity

Does the community deepen members’ attachment to their core identities in a healthy way or allow them to discover their identities in new ways?

Example: Wearing the community’s branded hat makes Sarah proud to be working in such an interesting industry, gives her confidence, and sparks connections with people that work in tech.

Compensation

Does the community help members earn more for their work? 

Example: The community helped Jerome train in the core skills of a sales leader, which helped him get hired in a new job that pays him 50% more than his prior job. 

Information

Does the community provide new, useful information to its members through their affiliation with the community?

Example: The community’s newsletter clued Edgar in on a new trend in his industry that led him to rebrand his product, resulting in 17% higher sales in Q4 than he had initially forecast.

These categories correspond to the various revenue streams that a community can build as outlined below:

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